Episode 11
This week on Redacted, we bring on our fourth guest: Ben Eckerson, founder of Agentcy, an AI-enabled consultancy helping small-to-mid-market companies find the gaps between the software they already pay for. It's a heavy demo episode where Ben walks through the internal CRM he built from a single meeting transcript into a full client-proposal engine and bookended by a real conversation about whether to build your own tools or buy them, and what's left for humans once the AI does the rest.
Who the Guest Is
Ben Eckerson is the founder of Agentcy, an AI-enabled consultancy for small-to-mid-market companies, launched in earnest in February 2026 alongside business partner Eric out of 24 and Up, a venture studio in downtown Raleigh. Before Agentcy, Ben spent roughly 20 years in client services, starting on the ad-agency side at McKinney (2006–2012), then running Viget's Durham office, then co-founding Savas Labs, a web and platform shop. Agentcy is his bet on something leaner: fewer licenses, fewer gaps between tools, and, in his words, getting humans to stop doing the robot work.
What We Cover
20 years of agency scars, one clean pivot: Ben spent two decades in client services, McKinney (2006–2012), running Viget’s Durham office, then co-founding Savas Labs, before breaking off in late 2025 to build something leaner.
“Get the humans to stop doing the robot work.” It’s on Agentcy’s homepage, and it’s the same idea behind the CRM Ben built to run his own shop.
Stealth to full launch in under a year: Agentcy started quietly in late 2025 and went full-time in February 2026, built alongside business partner Eric out of 24 and Up in downtown Raleigh.
The demo, start to finish: Drop in a Fathom call transcript, and the tool pulls out pain points and quotes, maps them against a JSON file of Agentcy’s service offerings, estimates hours and pricing, and outputs a one-click, client-ready proposal deck.
“We’ve just AI-ified it.” David and Taylor’s own company, Offline, a consumer subscription business doing roughly $1M in ARR, gets a quick mid-episode update: two people working on it full-time, two part-time.
The AI-CRM question: Ben’s tried the off-the-shelf options (“very impressive”) but keeps building his own anyway, dogfooding what Agentcy sells clients and learning what’s actually valuable versus commodity.
Going headless: The group’s read on where AI tooling is heading: the UI becomes a “commodity bolt-on,” and the real value moves into the data layer.
The counter-argument: Less UI can mean sloppier AI without a human checkpoint forcing structure, a risk David pushes Ben on directly.
Prototypes beat decks: Ben’s biggest process change in recent months is showing clients a working prototype instead of a slide, because a deck “doesn’t necessarily show them what it looks like.”
Most clients don’t have a CTO: Just someone managing software licenses, which is why Ben opens every engagement by asking what people spend time on that they’d like to do less of.
Human judgment as the “last mile”: For all the automation on display, the group lands on reading a room and making a judgment call as the thing that stays human, the note they close the episode on.
Ben brings it back to Offline right at the buzzer. More automation, he argues, just means more time to go touch grass. Enjoy the conversation.
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